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Vitamin C

Cheap, essential, broadly useful — but the supplementation benefit in a fed-state young athlete is modest at 200-500 mg/day.

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VITAMIN C
TYPICAL DOSE
90 mg/d adult males (USDA), +35 mg/d if smoking…
ROUTE
CYCLE
STORAGE

Overview

What is Vitamin C?

Cheap, essential, broadly useful — but the supplementation benefit in a fed-state young athlete is modest at 200-500 mg/day. The two non-redundant use cases for Dylan: (1) 500 mg + 15 g gelatin/collagen, 30-60 min before tendon/ligament rehab work (Shaw 2017 protocol, replicated Lis & Baar 2019, Praet 2021) — directly relevant to MMA tendon/ligament load and to the collagen-peptides line in V4; (2) 200-500 mg/day during heavy training blocks and cold-weather camps — Hemilä Cochrane 2013 showed ~50% URTI risk reduction in athletes and cold-exposed populations vs. negligible in general population. Outside those windows, food sources (citrus, peppers, kiwi, berries) cover RDA at zero cost. Don't mega-dose chronically (>1 g/day around training) — Ristow 2009 and Paulsen 2014 show >1 g/day with vitamin E blunts mitochondrial adaptation to endurance training. Saturation pharmacokinetics (Levine 1996, PMID 8623000) mean single doses >500 mg waste most of the additional vitamin.

Peptide Interactions

vitamin E (α-tocopherol):
Synergistic

Vitamin C regenerates the oxidized α-tocopheroxyl radical, allowing vitamin E to keep recycling at the lipid membrane interface. Classic combination. Caveat:…

iron (non-heme):
Synergistic

100 mg vit C with plant-iron meal doubles absorption. Time them together. Don't take with heme iron sources (no enhancement, may exaggerate iron overload risk).

glutathione / NAC:
Synergistic

Vit C regenerates oxidized glutathione (GSSG → GSH), and GSH regenerates dehydroascorbate. Cooperative cycling. NAC provides cysteine precursor for GSH synth…

Collagen peptides / gelatin (Shaw protocol):
Synergistic

15 g collagen + 500 mg vitamin C 30-60 min pre-exercise — the strongest evidence-backed athletic-application stack for vit C. This is the targeted Dylan use …

Bioflavonoids (citrus, rutin, quercetin):
Synergistic

Synergistic antioxidant effect demonstrated in cell + animal models; modest human translation. Whole-food sources cover this naturally.

Zinc:
Synergistic

Common cold lozenges combine zinc + vit C with modest additive duration-reduction effect.

Vitamin D3:
Synergistic

No direct mechanistic synergy but co-supplementation is the standard "immune stack" — both improve respiratory infection resilience independently.

Vitamin E at high dose during endurance training adaptation
Avoid

see training-blunting evidence above.

Chemotherapy agents
Avoid

vitamin C may interfere with some chemotherapy via antioxidant mechanism. Coordinate with oncology if relevant.

Methotrexate
Avoid

theoretical interaction via acidified urine reducing renal clearance; clinically minor.

Iron supplements + meals high in non-heme iron + chronic vit C in hemochromatosis carrier
Avoid

cumulative iron load risk.

What to Expect

  • Week 1
    Tolerability and dose-response.
  • Week 2-4
    Early effect window.
  • Week 4-8
    Peak benefit assessment.
  • Week 8+
    Cycle decision point.

Side Effects & Safety 6

Side Effects

  1. 1GI upset / osmotic diarrhea at >2 g/day or single doses >1 g, particularly on empty stomach. Buffered forms (calcium/sodium ascorbate, Ester-C) reduce GI burden. Time-release helps modestly.
  2. 2Mild nausea, abdominal cramps at similar doses.
  3. 3Mild headache — usually associated with rapid IV infusion or very high oral bolus, not chronic supplementation.
  4. 4Increased flatulence.
  5. 5Heartburn (ascorbic acid is, well, acidic; buffered forms eliminate this).
  6. 6Transient erythrocyte hemolysis in G6PD-deficient individuals at IV high dose — see below.

When to Stop

  • Calcium oxalate kidney stones at chronic doses >1 g/day in oxalate-prone individuals. Ascorbate → oxalate is a real metabolic route, modest in normal individuals but meaningful in stone-formers. Multiple cohort studies (Nurses' Health, Physicians' Health) show ~40-50% higher stone risk in men taking ≥1 g/d vit C chronically. Mitigation: keep doses ≤500 mg/d if stone history; ensure 2-3 L/day fluid intake; consider potassium citrate co-supplementation if stone-forming with vitamin C.
  • G6PD deficiency + acute hemolysis with high-dose IV vitamin C. Mechanism: ascorbate at millimolar concentrations generates H2O2; G6PD-deficient erythrocytes lack glutathione regeneration to neutralize it. Oral doses ≤2 g/d are generally tolerated; IV requires G6PD screening.
  • Iron overload exacerbation in hemochromatosis. Vitamin C enhances iron absorption (Fe3+ → Fe2+) and also mobilizes iron from ferritin. In HFE C282Y/C282Y or H63D hemochromatosis, chronic high-dose vit C can accelerate hepatic iron loading. Mitigation: screen ferritin + TIBC + transferrin saturation if family history of liver disease; if hemochromatosis confirmed, avoid >RDA dose and never co-administer with iron-containing meals.
  • Lab test interference. Vitamin C at chronic high dose interferes with: fecal occult blood (false negative — important if screening for colon cancer), urine glucose strips (false negative), urine ketone strips, vitamin B12 assays (some methods), and capillary glucose meters (some methods). Stop high-dose ≥48 h before scheduled labs.
  • No specific onset window — vitamin C is exceptionally safe and most adverse signals are dose-dependent rather than time-dependent.
  • Kidney stones develop over months-years; not an acute concern but a chronic watch in stone-formers.
  • G6PD-related hemolysis is acute — IV use only, screen first.

References

Levine et al. 1996 PNAS — Vitamin C pharmacokinetics in healthy volunteers (PMID 8623000)

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov · 1996

foundational pharmacokinetic paper establishing saturation kinetics, 200 mg single-dose bioavailability, and the basis for the 200 mg/d Linus Pauling Institute recommendation.

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Hemilä & Chalker 2013 Cochrane — Vitamin C for preventing and treating the common cold (PMID 23440782)

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov · 2013

definitive systematic review; 8% adult / 14% pediatric duration reduction with regular supplementation; ~50% incidence reduction in athletes/cold-exposed subgroup (5 trials, n=598).

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Shaw et al. 2017 Am J Clin Nutr — Vitamin C-enriched gelatin + collagen synthesis (PMID 27852613)

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov · 2017

the foundational athletic-application paper; 15 g gelatin + vit C pre-exercise doubled P1NP at 4 hr.

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Lis & Baar 2019 Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab — Different vitamin C-enriched collagen derivatives on collagen synthesis (PMID 30859848)

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov · 2019

confirmed both gelatin and hydrolyzed collagen + vit C work equivalently.

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Praet et al. 2021 — Collagen + vitamin C × 3 months improves lower-limb rate of force development (PMID 34808597)

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov · 2021

longest-duration outcome study supporting Shaw protocol's functional translation.

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